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Title: Mages staffs for small races
Post by: mjones3 on May 24, 2009, 04:59:59 AM
While playing yet another Halfling Wizard I noticed that most of the wizards stave's I have seen are the typical quarter staff. This makes playing a Halfing/Gnome Wizard at a slight disadvantage to a larger race. I do know there are a few for the wee folk out there but I would suggest maybe making them just ever so slightly more common.
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Post by: VanillaPudding on May 24, 2009, 05:05:24 AM
There are daggers and a couple of other items out there to substitute for a staff and I believe are very similar mechanically, excluding more special stave's.
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on May 25, 2009, 08:47:45 AM
You're at no disadvantage, and Small races are likely the reason the common +1 L1 slot daggers aren't staves or clubs. If you want something staff-like, try a club.

The most useful wizard weapons are those daggers with extra slots, other than DM loot. The staves just have small skill bonuses and charges.
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Post by: Mort on May 25, 2009, 02:34:06 PM
And wizards look so wizard'ly with daggers in their hands.
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Post by: Listen in Silence on May 25, 2009, 04:22:17 PM
They also look wizardly with fish in their hands while wearing turqoise loincloths and turbans.
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Post by: Porkolt on May 25, 2009, 04:24:28 PM
Or robes.
 
OH WAIT
 
 
 
TBH, I've yet to encounter a quarterstaff I'd like to carry around as a wizard, as opposed to the many clubs and daggers.
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on May 26, 2009, 10:47:03 AM
Hehe. Ahmed *hates* looking wizardly. To him, "robe" is a four letter word. More than usual XD.

But yeah, those Wizard's Clubs are good and some of the thinner skins look suitably stafflike on a Small PC. Perhaps if we could get "Sawed off Wizard's Staff" clubs with similar stats to some of those staves IG currently?
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Post by: Listen in Silence on May 26, 2009, 03:51:22 PM
[Staff merchant saws wizard's staff in half, selling each half to a halfling at the price of a whole staff.]
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Post by: Gippy on May 26, 2009, 07:30:42 PM
I loath halfling wizards, but detested gnome wizards, and do not really think they need any aditional bonuses past the blatently obvious they already get as a small race. Maybe wizard staves are common for humans/elves because those are the common wizarding races? Gnomish illusionists hardly count as skilled wizards anyways. <_>
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Post by: putrid_plum on May 27, 2009, 12:05:06 AM
pfft gnomish illusionist are the true power in the multiverse
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Post by: Egon the Monkey on May 27, 2009, 10:31:29 AM
Quote from: Gippy;127841Gnomish illusionists hardly count as skilled wizards anyways. <_>
I see the PhK sights heading in your PC's direction to disprove that one XD.

Besides, this mostly seems a "looks" thing. TBH, it would be nice to see rare staves that give 2 L1 spellslots so that wizards wanting a staff can get a good one. With similar powerful Gnome and halfling only clubs so that medium race PCs can't dual wield them. Not really a huge problem, but then it would be cool to see Sugriam selling an expensive Gnome Only club with 1/day Colorspray or something.
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Post by: Daemonic Daz on May 27, 2009, 12:26:27 PM
William Bell will be turning in his sleep/grave right now
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Post by: mjones3 on May 27, 2009, 04:45:26 PM
Meh I was thinking more so of just anything on them so I can have something other than this plain old stick I bought in the beginers shop.
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Post by: Relinquish on May 27, 2009, 06:42:06 PM
The "mage staffs" can be used by halflings/gnomes but they are just 2 handed.
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Post by: Dr Dragon on May 27, 2009, 11:57:38 PM
Lame TN gnomeish illusionists who use PHK and avoid PFE and PFG.
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Post by: The Crimson Magician on May 28, 2009, 03:32:48 AM
Like anyone getting insta-ganked by an invisible gnomish illusionist who is using PhK will even have a potion/be able to get the spell out/have the effect on them/the reflexes to see the casting and/or the interpretation that the spell will be mind-affecting >_>
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Post by: mjones3 on May 29, 2009, 03:24:07 PM
Quote from: Relinquish;127964The "mage staffs" can be used by halflings/gnomes but they are just 2 handed.

Last I checked small races can NOT use quarterstaffs. So unless this was changed on EFU most of the choices I have seen for a "mages staff" where quarterstaffs and unusable bye small races.
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Post by: Relinquish on May 29, 2009, 08:10:08 PM
Quote from: mjones3;128261Last I checked small races can NOT use quarterstaffs. So unless this was changed on EFU most of the choices I have seen for a "mages staff" where quarterstaffs and unusable bye small races.

Before going off and saying they can't use things read what I said, I said MAGE STAFFS, NOT QUARTERSTAFFS, The glowing mage staffs are 2 handed by small races, so rock out and get one, or just don't play a midgit mage if you want to use a quarterstaff.
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Post by: putrid_plum on June 03, 2009, 06:58:28 PM
I like them rare and for powerful or mages that have done great things.  Not as common loot.