Scalebane7676
2006-09-07 00:10:11 UTC
#39251
Is there any kind of special currency that the people of Sanctuary have minted? It seems unlikely that they would have access to gold (and saying 'here, take 100 gold' sounds kind of lame), and having some sort of special coin (or coins of different levels of worth) would really make things interesting and add some detail.
Is this something that's been done and I've missed it, or is it something we could create a little contest to see who can come up with the best coin?
Ladocicea
2006-09-07 00:16:46 UTC
#39252
Chances are, you're probably closer to rich sources of natural gold and gems in the Underdark than on the surface.
I'd say Sanctuary's gold coins would be a mish mash of all kinds of currencies, gold nuggets and gemstones.
Secutor
2006-09-07 01:59:25 UTC
#39267
If you think "gold", or "gold pieces" sounds lame (like me), then just say "coins" or "coin".
"That will cost one thousand coin."
"I demand you return my coins to me."
I, personally, think it sounds better. Replace the word "gold" in either of those sentenses and see for yourself.
Garem
2006-09-07 03:07:02 UTC
#39279
Though I never got around to it with my one character that could have done this, you also have to potential to RENAME coinage in Sanctuary! I always thought this would be a really great idea, so I figured I'd throw that idea out there.
This leads to its own little debate. What do you think the people want to call them? Maybe the Seekers try and call them "Suns" for hope? Maybe a sly politician would want them named after a famous hero for the people's favor ("Wards", anyone? anything but "Reynolts" :lol: ) ? Or the large Grumbar congregation wants them named "Stones" for their Earthlord?
This, of course, should be IC, and should probably wait until you get the poor rabble back under the control of the Uppers.
... lame (like me)... *snicker*snicker*
LoQi
2006-09-08 12:28:15 UTC
#39461
I don't use the word 'gold' either, since it is... well, lame. It's a mystery to me why Bioware chose to use the term 'gold coins', since 1 gp is considered a small fortune. 'Copper coin' would be so much better. I think this is the way it is, but correct me if I'm wrong:
1 Copper coin = 1 copper (duh)
1 Silver coin = 200 coppers
1 Gold coin = 1000 coppers
1 Platinum = 5000 coppers
Also, the different kingdoms have different currencies, like 'lions', 'crowns' etc.
Ladocicea
2006-09-08 12:31:44 UTC
#39462
What's lame about saying gold coins?
Let's not try and tell people what to and what not to say. Everyone is free to call the currency a gold coin if they please.
Oroborous
2006-09-08 12:41:47 UTC
#39465
I like to call them "moo cows".
Seriously.
Snoteye
2006-09-08 13:29:44 UTC
#39468
LoQi
...but correct me if I'm wrong...
You asked for it.
cp sp gp pp
cp 1 1/10 1/100 1/1000
sp 10 1 1/10 1/100
gp 100 10 1 1/10
pp 1000 100 10 1
Also, the FRCS contains a little info on some of the larger cities' currency on page 91.
Conan The Conqueror
2006-09-09 04:17:21 UTC
#39545
You have to realize the fact that they went for simplicity. Having only a gold system is a lot easier than having to deal with copper, silver, gold, or even platinum. Not to mention coding a conversion system. Sure, it may be easy for scripting heads to churn this out, but you have to factor in Atari breathing down your neck with a release date that you HAVE to meet.
Besides....duergar are in the underdark. They are mining fiends. Just where exactly do you think all the gold that is on the surface came from? That's right, the ground! Lado hit it pretty close to the heart, being in the underdark likely means that people are far closer to good veins of precious metals.
Just think about all the stories written about dwarves that delved too deep (i.e. the Underdark) for precious ore and found themselves opening a can of worms.
Reason for an only gold system is the K.I.S.S. principle. Call it what you will, it all spends the same. Or you could load it into a sling and just bludgeon the hell out of someone who is holding something you want.
LoQi
2006-09-09 12:00:34 UTC
#39581
Ladocicea
What's lame about saying gold coins?Let's not try and tell people what to and what not to say. Everyone is free to call the currency a gold coin if they please.
I think it's lame, because gold is VERY precious, and the amount of gold used to make one coin, should be worth quitte a lot, and not just something you simply hand to a beggar. I am aware that gold comes from the underground, and may or may not be more common in the Underdark. But if that is the case, I'd still believe that they would combine the gold with other metals, to make copper or bronze coins.
MadCaddies
2006-09-09 12:19:15 UTC
#39584
Its such a trivial matter. Why don't you just call them whatever? Everyone will know what you're talking about, anyway.
Sometimes you have to ask yourself if the effort to post so many lines on the forums is really worth it. >_>
Mikhail The Heretic
2006-09-09 13:32:30 UTC
#39594
I have heard charchters call them diffrent things in fact the most interesting name i heard was "Shimmers".
Ladocicea
2006-09-09 14:41:49 UTC
#39600
First off:
MadCaddies
Its such a trivial matter.
Secondly, it's just not lame. Who's to say that the nuggets and gold pieces you trade with in the Underdark aren't much smaller in mass than a gold coin you might trade on the surface? If you still find using gold to trade lame, buy gems and trade with them instead. You'll make a loss every time you do so, but you're willing to do that for the sake of integrity, surely.
I don't foresee us enforcing a system whereby everyone is forced to call 1 gold coin a copper coin, 10 a silver coin, and so forth. It'd get confusing, especially for new people who don't know what you're on about.
It is a trivial matter and, whilst your ideas on how to improve the integrity of our setting are welcome, there are more significant and impactful ways to go about it.
Meldread
2006-09-09 20:26:54 UTC
#39624
Before coming to EfU I played in a DM Campaign game, and we didn't use gold there. We used different types of coins that had weight.
EfU could implement such a system, easily, but my problem with the system is that every time you wished to deal with a merchant the player had to convert his "coins" into NWN Gold Coins. (Although thankfully every merchant we encountered allowed us to do this easily.)
We could enter into a fun vs realism debate. However, for me personally, this is pretty low down on the totem pole for my concerns. The major thing that I want is persistent storage. Until we can get that, I'd hate to have coins with weight - my 16 Strength Fighter always teeters on the edge of being encumbered due to the stuff he lugs around.
Snoteye
2006-09-09 20:48:40 UTC
#39627
Okay, here's my take on it:
AFAIK, micromanaging is pretty much the sole reason rations - and food/beverages in general - don't have an actual mechanical effect. With currency it's no different. Ask yourself, what would you gain from having to keep track of 4 different types of coins? I mean, aside from a headache and a crammed inventory...
The RP potential in multiple types of coins is nonexistant in that it ultimately doesn't matter if you get 100cp or 10gp. If you don't like calling it gold, don't call it gold. Call it coins, shimmers, moo cows, Fabergé eggs, or rothé excrements (okay, the latter two might not be good choices, but you get my drift).
alogen
2006-09-09 21:06:50 UTC
#39633
as snoteye said...
there are things importent and things not importent...
4 types of coins is just liek food.
let the dms work on real problems like bugs and lag...!
Naga
2006-09-09 21:13:49 UTC
#39635
Ugh coin wait should never factor in.
Ering off topic a bit, I doubt there ever will be publically accessable persistant storage, I'm pretty sure those are meant to be perks of factions etc.
Thats my 25 moo cows
Coldburn
2006-09-13 14:04:19 UTC
#40316
Perhaps it is once again time to introduce Sanctuary´s currency...
GOLDBURNS
alogen
2006-09-13 14:22:19 UTC
#40319
Just call'em bucks... anyone played "fallout"? :P
Thomas_Not_very_wise
2006-09-15 02:45:16 UTC
#40645
try american currency every can use that and besides IT IS YOUR SERVER WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CURRENCY IS USED. shoot make up a subrace no one cares. make up your currency and do not tell atari
LoQi
2006-09-15 16:09:28 UTC
#40715
Thomas_Not_very_wise
try american currency every can use that and besides IT IS YOUR SERVER WHO REALLY CARES ABOUT WHAT KIND OF CURRENCY IS USED. shoot make up a subrace no one cares. make up your currency and do not tell atari
a) I don't think we should use dollars. That's just silly.
b) I think a couple of us would care, if the DMs created a new playable subrace.
c) Atari wouldn't care anyway, since NwN is a Bioware game, based on Dungeons and Dragons.
Also, I think we should just avoid it. There is no need for an actual name for the currency. Coins, shinies, coppers etc. works just as well. I imagine that we use a system of different coins, made of different metal. But I still think that 1 gp is a LOT, which is why I also avoid using the term 'gold'.
Naga
2006-09-15 17:19:41 UTC
#40718
LoQi
But I still think that 1 gp is a LOT, which is why I also avoid using the term 'gold'.
According to the chart I read. 1 gp((100 coppers)) is like 1 pound (100 cents ((coppery coins))
LoQi
2006-09-16 14:28:55 UTC
#40882
Naga
LoQi
But I still think that 1 gp is a LOT, which is why I also avoid using the term 'gold'.
According to the chart I read. 1 gp((100 coppers)) is like 1 pound (100 cents ((coppery coins))
Except that 1 GP in Canon PnP is about how much a commoner makes in one year.
Koririn
2006-09-16 17:45:25 UTC
#40906
Lions, Cormyr style. Perhaps the ol' school gold piece'd just do the trick?
Elytherin Dragonius
2006-09-17 01:15:37 UTC
#40984
im still liking the idea of everyone using what ever they want as a name
call them anything you want. i know i have used all of theese as names for coins:
rocks
rounds
barrels
pebbles
wheels
stars
nuggets
fish
keys
and so many more and i will probably one day call them something stupid like wiskers or orcbums or some simarly out there thing
Harlstar
2006-09-17 01:51:08 UTC
#40993
Or like in NWN sp champaign (no idea how to spell that cos im tierd :( ) they have gold for nearly everything then in the docks district they have ummm.... what were they called? rouge coins or something? Basicly it would be someone adds items that can be traded for certian magical/general items like gold/ rocks/ orcbums/ whatever ( :lol: ... orcbums). and because gold or whatever is the main currency in upper, the ever-peved lower could make they're own currency now that they r seperate.