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sexism and nwn

Alright here's my useless post of the day :

In the character creation menu, when you chose gender, for men it is written in my version of the game (french)

Men can aspire to .... (this is the translation)

and for women

Women can excel in...

SO the conclusion is : we boys can TRY, but only girls can DO...at least this is the case for french people.

what is it written in the english game version?

I've noticed that before. :roll:

It's not ASPIRE to, I don't think, but it is similar.

Can anyone smell the boycott cooking?

Females Females of the Realms can excel in any field of endeavor, from scholarly pursuits to the arts of war.

Males Males of the Realms can aspire to any field of activity, from scholarly pursuits to the arts of war.

Directly from the NWN character creation screen.

It's a wonder you don't see more female characters in the game...

Pfft. Every bit of the D&D text is biased towards women. It almost -always- refers to characters as "she" or "her". Even in the NWN handbook. Check it out.

I imagine it was intended to get more girls into playing the game years ago, and just sort of stuck.

I applaud any effort to get more women into the game.

I don't get it. What woman doesn't want to (pretend to?) feel the hot spray of blood hit her chest and face as she cuts open a living creature with a very large sword? Bonus if it's in some guy's basement.

Kotenku Pfft. Every bit of the D&D text is biased towards women. It almost -always- refers to characters as "she" or "her". Even in the NWN handbook. Check it out.

I imagine it was intended to get more girls into playing the game years ago, and just sort of stuck.

Correction: It always refers to characters as females. This is something WoTC came up with, for reasons unknown. That's why it's so in the manual, too.

If it doesn't refer to a character as female, it's a mistake.

Isn't character a feminine word, then? Kind of like earth, man and so on are properly referred to as 'her' or 'she' when you give them a genus.

Kotenku Pfft. Every bit of the D&D text is biased towards women. It almost -always- refers to characters as "she" or "her". Even in the NWN handbook. Check it out.

I imagine it was intended to get more girls into playing the game years ago, and just sort of stuck.

That is a default that goes beyond this game. Often in the history of the written word the feminine was used as a default. Even in other things, the generic standard is feminine. Like ships. Besides, it the only women some D&D players will ever have in their mom's basement. :twisted:

The WOTC Players guides use about fifty male/female references - half the sample charactesr are female and when discussing game mechanics it will either use him/her for that entire section.

nestek The WOTC Players guides use about fifty male/female references - half the sample charactesr are female and when discussing game mechanics it will either use him/her for that entire section.
Only if it's referring to a sample male character will it use the masculin form.

*sighs* It's a girl thing. You guys can aspire to the basic level of what we excel at :wink:

Snoteye
nestek The WOTC Players guides use about fifty male/female references - half the sample charactesr are female and when discussing game mechanics it will either use him/her for that entire section.
Only if it's referring to a sample male character will it use the masculin form.

Well, yeah, when I talk about a male I usually use him as well. But Snoteye's right, it's about 50/50. I believe most textbooks and such use this approach now too.

Snoteye

Correction: It always refers to characters as females. This is something WoTC came up with, for reasons unknown. That's why it's so in the manual, too.

If it doesn't refer to a character as female, it's a mistake.

Actually, Whitewolf started this with world of darkness. WotC picked it up later on.

My bad, never read any Whitewolf. :)

*sighs* It's a girl thing. You guys can aspire to the basic level of what we excel at

Can too! *sticks the tounge out in a childish manner*

Admittedly though, sexisim should be different in this world. Lets have a look at RL, in the good old days, when we cooked food over an open flame as opposed to putting in a mocriwave and nuking it, when a war broke out between two barberic tribes, the men would usally go fight because they belived the women were not strong enough. Now, would you beleive this in a world like D'nD, after all, one of those "weak women" could spontaniously just develop sorceress powers, making her the strongest person in the group. It's reasons like this that sexism would have evoled differently in this world.