ok going to try and do this with out causing spoilers if I do not succed feel free to tell me and I'll edit the post. Since in some places in the world various contridictory thoughts on the history and current make up of the council can be found it might be nice to make the door to the council chambers pickable, very very difficult to do of course (I"m thinking a DC of 50 or so) and punishible quite severly if caught and you may also not find anything.

Just a thought

The dc is likely much lower, you just need to have adm to supervise the entire process, they will make you roll, they are likely aware of th dc and other considerations which may be taken into account. The only reason its not pickable is to prevent ooc abuse, while dms ar enot present that is.

Thanks for the info, only saw it said you needed a key when I was attempting it out of (mostly) curiosity. Thanks for the info.

As a general rule, don't "break into" faction areas without DM supervision.