Would it be possible to get some threads in there with information about kinda what you expect out of each one, and which ones are not allowed on EFU, and maybe a Challenge Rating for how difficult they are to get, comparatively? Just to give some of those people who make a character EXPECTING to get a prestige class, realize what their in for. Example:

Assassin, have been hired to kill at least, minimum one person.

Blackguard: be a highly feared and devout follower of an evil deity(or whatever)

ect ect.

The problem with doing that is that it will limit the creativity of the players. We want the players to tell us why they deserve the PrC, not for us to give the players a checklist to go through to get it. For most of the PrC's, we don't really have a single way to get it, nor would I want to make it that simple. Players who want PrC's should do something to deserve something prestigious. For example, just because you kill someone doesn't make you qualified for assassin. You should work for it both IC and OOC.

Could there at least be some detailed description (like that of the base classes) describing what they actually do. At least for the more complex ones. Some of them are just well duh.

I do agree that we should provide some basic information about the prestige classes. If anyone feels like typing out some snippets from the source books regarding the prestige classes, feel free to do so and send them to us.

Howland I do agree that we should provide some basic information about the prestige classes. If anyone feels like typing out some snippets from the source books regarding the prestige classes, feel free to do so and send them to us.

If not, I'll look them up in the Sourcebooks.

Coldburn

Howland I do agree that we should provide some basic information about the prestige classes. If anyone feels like typing out some snippets from the source books regarding the prestige classes, feel free to do so and send them to us.

Won't the Shadows of Undrentide and Hordes of the Underdark manuals suffice?

If not, I'll look them up in the Sourcebooks.

I don't have any 3rd edition source books, and bought the platinum edition of NWN... the manual that came with that was a bit sparse (and misplaced atm).

I have avoided NWN PW's that keep taking shortcuts by refering people to sourcebooks. The last time I PnP'ed, was 2nd Edition. I play NWN because I don't want to have to buy and/or read sourcebooks (and find a group of players who are not intimidated by my age :shock: ). I just want to RP in a D&Dish setting.

<edit>Oh, my point: I would like to see some summary information on the forums/site, if possible and appropriate.</edit>

The nwn manual would be great if it was something other than: [Horrible capslocky death] "OMG SHADOW DANCER DANCE IN SHADOWS IZ DON'T KNOW WHY LAWL!"

"WEAPONS MASTER ROXXOR AT WEAPONS HE SO COOL"

"DRAGON DICIPLE UBER HE LIKE DRAGONS SO HE'S LIKE GETZ DRAGONZ POWERS!"

"EBOL NECRO'S LIKE TO BECOME PALEMASTERS BECAUSE LIKE THATS COOL TO THEM AND THEY GET SKELOTAL HANDS HOW EVIL ARE THEY!"

" CHAMPION OF TORM IS LIKE AWESOME TORM AND HIM ARE LIKE BUDDIES IF TORM CAME DOWN TO HIM HE'D BE LIKE YO TORM LEND ME 20000 GOLD AND TORM WOULD BE ALL LIKE HERE YA GO!" [/Horrible capslocky death]

Sourebooks are much more descriptive (I hope otherwise D&D really has let me down)

Leurnid I don't have any 3rd edition source books, and bought the platinum edition of NWN... the manual that came with that was a bit sparse (and misplaced atm).

Naga The nwn manual would be great if it was something other than: [Horrible capslocky death] <snip> [/Horrible capslocky death]

Naga Sourebooks are much more descriptive (I hope otherwise D&D really has let me down)

Thrawn The problem with doing that is that it will limit the creativity of the players. We want the players to tell us why they deserve the PrC, not for us to give the players a checklist to go through to get it. For most of the PrC's, we don't really have a single way to get it, nor would I want to make it that simple. Players who want PrC's should do something to deserve something prestigious. For example, just because you kill someone doesn't make you qualified for assassin. You should work for it both IC and OOC.

I wasn't implying to tell HOW to get it, but I remember one problem I had when I wanted to get RDD with Malik, was that my 'concept' for an RDD, had nothing to do with Dragons, I wanted to RP it as something else. But it was rejected because it had to be what the DM team decided the PrC was about. THAT is why I think some basic information about the PrC's should be considered to be added to that forum section.

I could copy the stuff down from 3.5 if ya wanted

NWN was built on the 3.0 rules not 3.5. Find that to copy i would assume it's more applicable.

djspectre NWN was built on the 3.0 rules not 3.5. Find that to copy i would assume it's more applicable.

Doubtful. They very seldomly alter descriptions in revisions and, even if they did, a lot of the prestige classes are found in books that haven't even been updated to 3.5.

I don't know. It's all sort of, well, common sense.

Is it that ridiculous to assume that a red dragon disciple should have something to do with dragons, or that an assassin has already killed somebody?

Nuke the point is. What to do with dragons? I mean there has to be some consistancy between them all like with all the other prc's.

Being a wearer of purple (or something like it) comes to mind Naga. Though I also think that a RDD would be about as rare as a blackguard or shifter. These are tough PrCs with a lot of rp buildup roled into the whole thing, and wholly dependent on in game actions/connections. I don't exactly expect to see any in game anytime soon.

Didn't someone mention that in the sourcebook RDDs are something like 1 in 3 x10^6 or something stupidly high?

The Beggar Being a wearer of purple (or something like it) comes to mind Naga. Though I also think that a RDD would be about as rare as a blackguard or shifter. These are tough PrCs with a lot of rp buildup roled into the whole thing, and wholly dependent on in game actions/connections. I don't exactly expect to see any in game anytime soon.

The RDD PrC isn't based off of the Purple Dragon Knight. It's based on the Dragon Disciple in the DMG, difference being that, in NWN, the dragon type has already been chosen beforehand. Also, while the DMG doesn't say anything about actual numbers, the amount of DD's is pretty low. In my opinion, the PrC's that require mere training and/or devotion (as opposed to actual heritage) should be more easily acquired than those with a requirement beyond that. Dwarven Defender and Assassin, for instance.

(And I know there aren't any requirements of draconic heritage to become a DD in PnP, but having that is sort of self-evident.)

Okay, practicing a bit of thread necromancy here. This was the only data I could find about PrCs, Dwarven Defeders in particular. I would greatly appreciate this list of base requirements to be written, as I'd like to eventually work up to a PrC character. Dragon Disciple, probably not. Assassin... maybe.

I thank you.

dragonfire9000 ... a bit...

Maybe I'll do this at some point, no promises.

I kinda thought this thread

https://efupw.com/efu1-forum/topic/22/22158/application-process/index.html

Under Section 3

Gave pretty good descriptions on what is required.

Example

Red Dragon Disciple -- You should have a dragon or half-dragon as a mentor. (NOTE: This class can represent being a disciple of any color of dragon.)

It's not a laundry list but it does give the basics of what is required to achieve a certain PRC.

Unless it in invalid or outdated can't we use that for help?

Am I way off base?

Ninty Three Am I way off base?