Port claw can't rest. It has an inn with rooms, let us rest! Let us rest! Let Us rest, denounce the tyranny of lack of service, Denounce the TYRANNY!

Yeah, this drove me nuts on a DM quest. Talked to every kobold in the place looking for the inkeeper. If there's not one, should just be unlocked for resting. It wouldn't take much to get a Kobold Barman there.

I would like to hijack this thread to complain about the Crone as well, where there is no one to let us use the rooms upstairs. Please let players rest for free when there are beds but no innkeepers, because realistically, who would stop them?

I'd love to see it set as "rest for free with a random chance of spawning a Chosen Hunter" :D.

That is why you can buy a bedroll... so you can rest if you need to when your away from the city. I can not find where I read it, but I have read it either on the server or the Webpage. I even have one character that had a bedroll.

THat makes sense in the wilderness, but it doesn't make sense when there are areas you'd expect to be able to rest. Putting down a bedroll in an inn? that's odd.

Also, bedrolls are ridiculously heavy, weighing more that a greatsword. Most characters that aren't big on STR or wilderness-rigged can't afford the weight. And yes, I know about the light ones, but to get one requires IC knowledge of the *spoiler* shop, the fact it sells the things, and then bribing someone it'll trade with to go and get one for you.

There is more than one place that sells lighter bed rolls. Having said that, I like the idea of resting in the Crone giving a chance of a chosen encounter... only for the truly desperate. :twisted:

Egon the Monkey THat makes sense in the wilderness, but it doesn't make sense when there are areas you'd expect to be able to rest. Putting down a bedroll in an inn? that's odd.

Actually no it is not odd. In many different fantasy novels an Inn had what was called the "Common Room", where people that had little gold could put a bedroll down and sleep. You of course took your chances with your stuff being stolen as you slept. But that came with the territory.

Also if memory serves me well and I could look it up if needed. I believe that the common room idea was taken from real Inns in England and Ireland that did just that!

Please do not take this as an attack against you, Egon. But you have to remember that Art often copies real life. So what you might think is odd, is really an idea taken from history. That is why it is said that History repeats itself, because no one listens.

The whole "bedroll" discussion is moot, as you cannot rest in these areas at all - bedroll or no bedroll.

Stay focused. The idea had nothing to do with bedrolls. It was about unlocking areas, where players would realistically be able to rest, but cannot at this time, for whatever reason.

This has amongst other things led to that, in essence, there is only one way for a Lower character to rest (unless you're one of those guys who can skulk into Upper). And that's not even particularly safe, or open to low-level characters.

Mr. Snitch, you gots yourself a point. I am having a blast on the server right now but i'd hate to be a newbie spellcaster in lower trying to find a place to take a nap....

Well, my point wasn't that it was a balance issue - I personally don't mind the balance aspect that much - but that it does pose some strange IG/IC problems which don't make that much sense to me, since you often can't rest in areas which are pretty much perfectly safe (safer than many of the areas you can rest in), and with nobody there to stop you from doing it.

I'm not sure, but i think there was a time one could rest in there.

Perhaps the gnome attack on Port Claw killed the innkeeper... and no other kobold dare take this function... We already are lucky they do let us camp with them and don't murder us in our sleep. They are kobold, you know, and are allied with Sanctuary, not random travellers.

Make a kobold and become innkeeper, trader, then have people pay you to rest there. Hum...

Or else, yep, a room to rent would be useful.

I think it's merely DM oversight.