Egon the Monkey
2008-07-19 12:25:29 UTC
#165578
My bard/cleric's been trying to figure out how to create holy water, and after I tried using "bless" on spring water, mixing in an alchemy kit etc, I finally found a consecration altar. However, it says you need the right equipment to use with it.
I've never seen any merchant selling consecration equipment, unlike for the other crafting kits, which have multiple sellers. I tried everywhere in New Dunwarren, and even sent a letter to the Greycloaks, but nobody in even that faction knows where to buy the stuff.
Since New Dunwarren's the religious enclave of the city, I reckon it would make sense for one of the merchants there to sell consecration equipment along with the other holy and blessed equipment they stock, perhaps as a conversation option for non-evil characters only.
9lives
2008-07-19 13:19:47 UTC
#165580
New Dunwarren's not really the religious enclave of the city- Just the most self righteous!
Egon the Monkey
2008-07-21 07:56:02 UTC
#165877
...and so the most likely to be supplying priests so they can go out and smite things :D
Luke Danger
2008-07-21 14:42:03 UTC
#165906
9lives
New Dunwarren's not really the religious enclave of the city- Just the most self righteous!
Someone should change change that sometime soon. . . :P
SkillFocuspwn
2008-07-21 15:06:11 UTC
#165910
I think it was a rather transparent hint that you should try looking at some of the even more religious places IG!
Egon the Monkey
2008-07-21 17:29:51 UTC
#165920
Right, note to self: Engage Brain Before Posting XD
Cruzel
2008-07-21 19:50:49 UTC
#165949
Instructions/Tools for these kinds of systems should be rare.
Alchemy and herbalism tools are sold because without another PC to tell you, and a few choice loot options - It's nearly impossible to figure them out, since there are so many possibilities in these systems.
For alchemy, afaik there was no real loot for it, so it was all experimental/trial-error. Nobody really knew that much about it (afaik) until a few months ago when Pyth/magister/Myself started breaking the ice for it.
I am against open exposure or easy access to anything which reveals a mystery about ascripted system, since the RP opportunities when gathering up others and trying to figure out how to do (insert mystery here) are much more fun and exciting.
However, if these tools are not as simple as "click and use - Tada you're done" and actually require recipes, I would be in favor of them being added. But if it's just a matter of using the tools and you're done, I think such equipment should remain DM loot.
Egon the Monkey
2008-07-29 12:29:43 UTC
#167069
Apologies for bumping this, but it's become relevant again now I've been sending out letters all over the pace and checking all over the city.
Chatting to Snoteye on IRC, he's not sure if anywhere actually sells it now, and I've checked every temple I found in Sanctuary now, even the one in Sewer Town. Unless it's the Hold, if they sell items to Priests of Grumbar, I'm stumped.
Since my bard's only a L1 priest (I took one level as I wanted a rather healing-focused bard when I made the guy) it doesn't make much sense for him to be gunning for DM loot meant for very devout PCs, when all he wanted was to be able to make holy water to help in fighting undead (IC reason, that. He favours choking dust and grenadelikes when he can find them, but they are not much good on zombies).
Also, consecration recipes are only found in books. I've discovered one, "the Tome of Light", in general quest loot. Much like finding the alchemy tome with a recipe in, that's what set my PC going on the idea of consecration. I'm not sure it makes that much sense to have flavour loot floating around for a skill that needs DM loot to pull off.
I'd like to suggest that consecration gear be customised for a character's faith (OOC note so you can't sell the stuff or steal it to avoid the quest.) and made the reward for a Cleric-specific quest that becomes repeatable if you lose your set. Make the quest a tough SP one. Basically, Bilby's for Priests.
Cruzel
2008-07-29 15:06:50 UTC
#167083
I'm not sure it makes that much sense to have flavour loot floating around for a skill that needs DM loot to pull off.
There is quite a few standard drops which you need a DM to do anything with.
Since my bard's only a L1 priest
It makes sense that a L1 preist would not likely have the ability to do this anyways. Given the DC is probably something like Cleric level + wisdom +lore (+spellcraft/Heal?) Its probably somewhat higher than the simple alchemy recipes as well. I Doubt it would be mechanically possible for you do even accomplish consecration.
that being said;
reward for a Cleric-specific quest that becomes repeatable if you lose your set. Make the quest a tough SP one. Basically, Bilby's for Priests.
^ Totally in favor