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Feudal titles

In this times, i heard of many feudal titles. Nothing against then, its a RP background. Is clear, the noble titles descend from cultural circles of lands, where is established a feudal system. I know not exactly, what system of titles is established in Forgotten realms, but by my mind, the makers not respect historical rules in this.

This topic is only for muse on this, (especially for montezzis, where the titles are used in this time. )

Title "prince" is very honorable, but too inconsistent in times and places. Roman "principe" was synonym for "leader" and "princeps" was part of titles romans caesars. In this case, the "dux" was title for provincial governor with administrative, judgment and military high authority. From this comes titles "duce" od "duke" as souverain rulers in his domains (Burgundia, Bretonia, Normandia). Title "prince" was in this times practically unknown.

Dukes and kings in Europe was named "the princes" in sense independent rulers. Practically, the "duke" was real title and his bearer was too "prince" in generic sense.

In later times, the "prince" was named in two senses. For first, "prince" was independent ruler, particulary in German Empire (fürst, reichsfürst). (But here was too title "kurprinz" for succesor of ruler (only in case the "kurfürst" = "elector count")) For second, prince is member od rulehouse in land ("princes of blood" in french, "prince of wales" in Britain). As independent ruler, the "prince" = the "duke" or the "prince" < the "duke".

EDIT1: the "prince" was at no time named "prince" XY, but XY, "prince of Z, in our case, for example: "Rinaldo Montezzi, prince of Lower Dunwarren"

In modern times, the "princes" are named members of nobility from title count and higher.

Nobility under rulers was in order of highness: - marquis/marquise - count/countess - viscount/viscountess - baron/baroness - knight, chevalier, yeoman (Britain)/lady

For more, see at Wiki pages, where is some little as well.

-sorry for my english, is very simple-

1) Your history of titles is very general and mostly flawed.

2) Faerun has several systems of titles, all variable and developed over in-game centuries which creates many inconsistencies. Very similar to how titles are used in the real world too there.

3) The nobles "titles" in EfU, are self-declared by the Prince who is obviously free to use titles in any way he damn well pleases, cause he is in charge.

If you really want it accurate, most titles in Faerun actually stand in the monarchic order due to lack of creativity on the part of the designers of the Forgotten realms. (don't get me started)

But this would force EfU to be as bland and annoying as the rest of the FR. The fact EfU isn't strictly canonical is its saving grace.

It is always interesting to see what titles are being used and always difficult to determine which ones to choose for a faction you create.

In Sanctuary, the "leadership" is a group of Councilors. There have been a Chairman of the Council. There has been a Mayor at times, but we do not have one now, unless I am oblivious. If IG actions had a feudal takeover it would be interesting to see people hunting for titles.

The Archbald family, one of Sanctuary's home grown nobility uses the title of Lord Archibald. At times he has also been called a Magnate.

I am not sure of other terms that have been used to date though.

Titles in the Underdark, unless inherited from the surface (as is the case from some of our more established NPC basis) are self proclaimed. It's also worth noting that FR have never been interested in sticking to how titles are used historically, and titles are usually a great big Free For All.

Oroborous 1) Your history of titles is very general and mostly flawed.
my history is general, but, please, not flawed. i study it so long 8) you know any other?

as i wrote, its only muse for users. is flagrant, titles-system of faerun are useable here, or self-proclamation titles.

in my PnP worlds, i use a titles often, and my experience is, that better is keep to history-system. the titles have genesis in (mainly European) history (principe - princeps - prince, dux - duche - duke)

in use, the title can be used chaotically, but not absolutely (the prince do not give to someone title "king", for example)