Give everyone the ability to set what they want to morph into. If someone has an item, they can only pick from the forms that the item provides.

I'm not sure i understand the suggestion, but i'll chime in on the topic. Since there seems to be lots of forms available (druid froms, actually), why not give this spell all of the existing customs forms in EfU?

Overpowered.

Giving polymorph all the existing custom form makes no sense really. I think the original suggestion was that wizards have a couple extra forms that they can use through the polymorph spell and he would like it if that same option was available for the potions considering it is the same thing.

I do not see how it is overpowered when wizards and sorcerers get the same option. I am not for expanding the forms, but allowing the spell, which has more forms, to be accessable by everyone. Wizards/Sorcs get the ability to choose amongst more forms then the 5 which are provided and hardcoded into the spell-- and if you have a scroll, or cloak of transformation, I do not see why the full spell should not be provided to you.

I dont follow.

• Are we considering giving wiazards the ability to make polymorph items of specific creatures?

• Are we allowing them a huge selection a.k.a druid or druid shifter?

• Are we suggesting that an Item of polymorph give you the ability to shift into a specific form related to the object at hand.. including have objects that have a specific form/group of forms that aren't standard?

• Or are we suggesting that an Item of polymorph give you the ability to select with of the already standard polymorph forms you wanna be?

If anything, availability of polymorphing items for others should be restricted moreso than they are. Strongly against this suggestion for now.

I think he's just asking that a dialogue be added to every character such that they can change, via the crafting menu, what things each of the 5 polymorphs changes you into.

This way, when a non caster gets a polymorph item, they do not have to choose strictly from the 5 forms on the scroll, but will have full access to all the polymorph forms that a wizard or Sorcerer has access to.

Yes. This has nothing to do with availability at all, sherry. It would only mean that in the (rarer) cases that they are found, they can be used to do cool things, instead of just mechanically powerful things.

You could just add an extra cost to certain forms. Having a regent for certain forms on cast to be consumed is a possibility or by the use of the alchemy chamber enable (imbue the caster with the ability to polymorph with the polymorph spell into the creature) the use of different forms by recipe, having the person earn such (obviously using parts of the desired creature).

I am surprised no one thought of this to balance out things and just screamed "overpowered".

It's probably not an easier script to do for something that isn't going to be used often.

After speaking with scripting DMs, the result on how hard it would be is 'not difficult'.

Basically it sounds like the OP is suggesting what we have similar to the summoning themes.

Each item for polymorph would have different themes, meaning what you can change into is restricted by the item. I think is a cool idea, and could make for some awesome RP chances.

it wouldn't be over powering at all in most cases, and would even open it up for more exotic and rare shapes for those who truly rock out.

Ugh.

Wizards and Sorcerers already get a menu which allows them to change into more shapes than the spell allows. They can switch any of the 5 shapes that they have from the original spell, to a list of other things, much like -but not the same as- druid shifting.

If you are not a wiz/sorc, you do not have this menu, but can still use scrolls of the spell.

I am proposing giving everyone the radical menu to allow anyone to use the spell to the full -already scripted- potential, which would require minimal scripting, merely removing a restriction on a conversation option. This is not adding anything, this is not modifying the ability.

Having never tried to access the menu with a non-mage, I didn't know it wasn't available to them. I don't see allowing scroll and potion users to the same alternate forms spell casters use as unbalancing.

I don't mind polymorph kit in circulation, but I prefer that casters with polymorph have a better and more expanded version of the spell! I will definitely concede now that it isn't necessarily overpowered, and I can understand why THE ORIGINAL POSTER would like access to the other forms, but it makes more sense to me that a dedicated Spellgcaster be able to get more out of this spell than Joe Blogs* who happens to pick up a cloak of many skins.

*No relation.

I'm all for more choices of polymorph form for spell casters. That would be very, very appreciated!