Mikhail The Heretic
2007-12-06 21:10:12 UTC
#120057
wcsherry
Half-orcs are sterile and can't reproduce, so it doesn't become an issue really.
I am just curious if this is a server thing as i have never been able to find reference to this anywhere in fact most seemed to point to the opposite for example one of the flaws in Dragon Magazine was Quarter Orc (for Half Orc's) as this was to represent the blood line getting weaker.
Garem
2007-12-06 21:15:19 UTC
#120060
Mikhail The Heretic
wcsherry
Half-orcs are sterile and can't reproduce, so it doesn't become an issue really.
I am just curious if this is a server thing as i have never been able to find reference to this anywhere in fact most seemed to point to the opposite for example one of the flaws in Dragon Magazine was Quarter Orc (for Half Orc's) as this was to represent the blood line getting weaker.
Well, maybe that was for a different setting. Or, as it is biologically likely, the vast majority of half-orcs are sterile but some are actually capable of reproduction. This is true in real life as well, as some mules are capable of reproduction, although the percentage that can are extraordinarily low. I wish I had time to look up statistics for you, but for right now my only source is a class I took last spring when we briefly covered genetics and the mixing of... the term for things like mules and half-orcs that generally can't reproduce.
core
2007-12-06 21:15:25 UTC
#120061
Half breeds (like mules) are rarely capable of reproduction, except in extraordinary cases.
Same with ligers!
Oskar Maxon
2007-12-06 21:18:13 UTC
#120067
Metro_Pack
And Zonkeys!
My first thought was "Zonkeys? Zebras and Monkeys? o_O"
Emryuk
2007-12-06 22:25:27 UTC
#120081
Roffle. This topic made me lol, so much.
:lol:
Mikhail The Heretic
2007-12-06 23:50:28 UTC
#120108
Pfft i was actually asking a serious question and i got Zonkeys, on a side note when playing P&P i used to call any undead by the letter of the type and part of the name Zinotours, Zogre's, Znoll, :P
Ommadawn
2007-12-06 23:53:07 UTC
#120111
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zonkey
It's no joke. :arrow:
DangerousDan
2007-12-07 00:20:12 UTC
#120121
Jenner Tenken found this out the hard way.
Squall and Rinoa Forever
2007-12-07 01:55:56 UTC
#120129
I firmly believe that, if a half-orc and a human love each other, they should be able to do whatever they want, and bear the offspring they so rightly desire as proof of their union of love.
However, half-orcs in Forgotten Realms are sterile, and cannot reproduce outside of extraordinary, ultra-rare circumstances. Thus, you will not have any half-orc/human matings yielding quarter-orc children. It's not a policy exclusive to this server.
Welcome back, by the way, Mikhail. :D
-SaRF
Dr Dragon
2007-12-07 02:04:55 UTC
#120133
Does this include Half Drow and Tieflings?
Also I never saw half races as sterile more like this.
Half orc +human = human
Half orc +orc = orc
Half orc plus Half orc = Half Orc
Plus elf = zip
pluz half elf=zip
Plus anything else =zip
9lives
2007-12-07 02:14:37 UTC
#120137
Half Elves of any sort are not sterile, and Tieflings are 1/4 Fiendish at the most.
Mikhail The Heretic
2007-12-07 06:24:35 UTC
#120168
Thank for the welcome back SARF *nods* can you name the source book that it's from my understanding from races of destiny is that Half-orcs can reproduce normally. and dear god it's not a joke.
lovethesuit
2007-12-07 08:59:42 UTC
#120187
Squall and Rinoa Forever
I firmly believe that, if a half-orc and a human love each other, they should be able to do whatever they want, and bear the offspring they so rightly desire as proof of their union of love.However, half-orcs in Forgotten Realms are sterile, and cannot reproduce outside of extraordinary, ultra-rare circumstances. Thus, you will not have any half-orc/human matings yielding quarter-orc children. It's not a policy exclusive to this server.
Welcome back, by the way, Mikhail. :D
-SaRF
...hahaha, oh man.
But yeah, presumably with the proper worship and homage to Shiallia, it would be possible...but I guess the question is why would you want to?
chezcaliente
2007-12-07 11:23:26 UTC
#120203
I remember this coming up a while back about half-elves, who are quite conclusively NOT sterile and reproduce as happily as any other race.
I'm not aware of any canon literature that says half-orcs are sterile, not the Player's Handbook, nor the FRCS, Races of Faerun or Races of Destiny...
At least not in the quick glances that I've just done in the past 10 minutes over sections that I thought would be relevant. lol.
Cruzel
2007-12-07 12:32:14 UTC
#120213
I think what Dragon meant was
Half orc +half elf, Half orc + elf, etc.
Seems he figured you would continue the pattern he had set.
Or maybe his brain sort of... half turned off?
PlayerCharacter
2007-12-07 14:58:36 UTC
#120246
I think the bigger question here is, "Do you have a half-orc who is getting some?"
Kotenku
2007-12-07 21:12:11 UTC
#120317
Cruzel
Or maybe his brain sort of... half turned off?
Half, yes. Regrettably, the front half. His Cerebellum and Occipital lobe unfortunately remain active.
Naga
2007-12-07 22:28:35 UTC
#120323
Half orcs are sterile yes and as for half elves they can reproduce but they're offspring is human even if they mate with another half elf.
Vlaid
2007-12-08 01:03:37 UTC
#120342
After this post, I see a lot of half races doing a lot of "in-game testing" in the near future.
*nods*
Mikhail The Heretic
2007-12-08 02:13:29 UTC
#120350
Naga
Half orcs are sterile yes and as for half elves they can reproduce but they're offspring is human even if they mate with another half elf.
Actually not true naga in races of destiny it states that a half elf that breeds with a half elf creates another half elf and that if a half elf and another human mate they get another half elf and if it's child does the same only then will it be human with slight elf features, In dragon magazine once again you could choose a flaw that was Quarter Elf to represent it cropping up. It also states that if two apparantly Human people breed who have going back a few generations elvish blood that sometimes it can create a half elf.
As for the Half-Orcs being sterile can you give me a refrence
grathor
2007-12-08 03:19:51 UTC
#120356
So much for my half orc leg humpin tourney.....
Anthee
2007-12-08 04:12:15 UTC
#120365
The most important question of all has not been asked yet:
Why are half-orcs sterile but half-elves are not?
Well, my friends, perhaps the answer is too obvious: WotC would be upsetting far too many exotic romances by denying half-elves the possibility to reproduce. Oh the uproar that all those dozens upon dozens of half-elf players would make were their beautiful and misunderstood halfbreed outcasts incapable of having equally beautiful and misunderstood offspring! Gracefully elven, yet possessed of a human vigor! Slightly pointy-eared, which is cool by definition, yet also amply equipped in all the important respects!
What romantically interesting qualities, then, do half-orcs have, with their warthog-like appearance and the grace and intellect of a mollusk? Is their only redeeming quality in this regard not, indeed, the fact that they are not fully orc, but only half? Perhaps WotC's decision to make these half-stupid half-dorks sterile is not entirely worth of a protest! Away with disgusting half-orc romances, away with SaRF's tasteless liberalism -- no one wants to hear about half-orcs making love anyways! Let half-orcs keep inhabiting the niché that they have taken as their own since the dawn of Dungeons & Dragons, the compulsory yet tiresome comic relief brought about by predictably poor command of English grammar and equally poor social skills, completely worth their -2 Intelligence and Charisma modifiers. Let love and reproduction be the calling of those player races that we players can feel touched and delighted by in our daydreams and personal fantasies.
Anthee
2007-12-08 04:19:16 UTC
#120366
Naga
Half orcs are sterile yes and as for half elves they can reproduce but they're offspring is human even if they mate with another half elf.
I have to add, on an unfortunately serious note, that this is untrue. Canon sources tell us that, although rare, there are entire communities of half-elves -- which would of course be impossible were the offspring of said creatures humans and not half-elves also.
But then, I'd hardly be surprised if this was another self-contradiction by our dear wizards who live by the coast.
core
2007-12-08 04:34:05 UTC
#120367
I love you Mr. Anthee.
I miss you so much it hurts sometimes.
Squall and Rinoa Forever
2007-12-10 21:25:10 UTC
#120793
Just to clarify!
Half-Orc+Anything=Does Not Exist.
Elf+Human=Half-Elf.
Elf+Half-Elf=Half-Elf.
Half-Elf+Half-Elf=Half-Elf.
Human+Half-Elf=Human.
However, do not let these rules stop you from engaging in true love, no matter the race or the class-when love springs forth between a male and a female PC while fighting goblins or slaughtering trolls, it must be nurtured, embraced, and cherished. Experimentation is always good, and maybe you will discover these rules through true IG love!
Dr Dragon
2008-01-21 21:39:40 UTC
#127446
That dosent count considering Ferdinard and Jenner were both an ugly couple.
Ommadawn
2008-01-21 22:48:35 UTC
#127458
It would be a sad world where only the beautiful people got some. :roll:
MithrilDragon
2008-01-22 02:33:54 UTC
#127494
Half-Orcs are sterile. They cannot through normal biological means reproduce. Races of Destiny and Dragon Magazine are supplemental materials, and, as a rule, supplemental materials have a tendency to contradict previously laid out rules and such.
wcsherry
2008-01-22 06:58:15 UTC
#127536
I think this has been suitably covered now.