I think that all weapons except those noted below should get a -4 to attack when in subdual mode. Im tired of seeing people subduing a person swining a sword r greataxe and able to subdue a person. Plus in core rulebook it says -4 when doing nonlethal damage.

I think

Clubs Quarterstaffs and unarmed attacks shouldnt get this penalty.

Voice your opinions here.

I disagree on the grounds on that it encourages full death kills.

In my opinion, FDs should only be utilized as a possible conclusion to some sort of roleplay event, such as a rivalry. Random thuggeries, paranoia and attacking stranger should always warrant a subdual. To give the players a -4 attack roll for deciding to subdual and give the other player a chance to continue and get revenge is practically penalizing them for being more courteous and roleplay oriented.

Sternhund echoed exactly what needs to be said. If anything, I would support a penality to FD damage!