I was wondering - with the diety panel on starting a new character, would it be possible to change it a little so that when you click on a name it gives you a brief outline of what that God's about .. ie

Helm - Dogma: Never betray your trust. Be vigilant. Stand, wait, and watch carefully. Be fair and diligent in the conduct of your orders. Protect the weak, poor, injured, and young, and do not sacrifice them for others or yourself. Anticipate attacks and be ready. Know your foes. Care for your weapons so they may perform their duties when called upon. Careful planning always defeats rushed actions in the end. Always obey orders, providing those orders follow the dictates of Helm. Demonstrate excellence and purity of loyalty in your role as a guardian and protector.

Cleric Alignments: LE, LG, LN NwN Domains: Law, Protection, Strength

And then an 'are you sure' button.

Useful for those who aren't that knowledgeable about FR religion, whose computers tend to crash when they try to run NWN windowed to google it.

Also avoids problems like having people's planned Tormite paladin following Talona, as there is no current way to modify your choice if you missclick, and you have to gen the whole character again.

I'd have to type in the dogma for every single deity. :(

Arkov I'd have to type in the dogma for every single deity. :(

Well, why are you wasting time typing that? :wink:

No copy Paste?

Ebok No copy Paste?

Oh.

Arkov I'd have to type in the dogma for every single deity. :(

Arkov I am assuming copy/paste! The formatting alone (putting it all into a script, breaking the write-ups into segments suitable for conversation boxes, etc) is a huge amount of work simply given the sheer number of deities.

spawnofweevil ... as there is no current way to modify your choice if you missclick, and you have to gen the whole character again.

Can a d.m set your deity field?

If so he can just WAND you to no deity, portal you to the start area temporarily and you can talk to the panel again :0

The other way is to have a special place (hidden panel or altar) in sanctuary or surrounds that actually allows you to change your deity. Could be story based or requiring a special item for it to function (that a d.m could give out) That would allow people to change their deity for those special times that it's required.

However clerics would need to rechoose domains and I dont think thats available on the fly at all. Validity checks for paladins and druids would also need to be done.

ALthough it's entirely possible Roleplay wise to change your deity the engine doesnt support it at all.

I don't think this suggestion was about 'changing' your deity at all. It was about how to more wisely choose it in the first place. (before you ever enter the city) Click on the panel, it tells you your god choice+dogma, if you like it you accept. If this wasn't what you thought it would be, then you select another. Should you choose the wrong one, the option of re-picking while you are still in the OOC area would be nice.

This obviously is allot of simple but repetitive work that has some snags that makes it very time consuming. I personally don't need either, since I have most of the Realm's deities memorized. However for someone who is not versed in the handbooks, this could aid them.

Thinking it over, I doubt it would be worth the work it would take to put every deity into the system; at least via conversation. (I don't know how easy journal entries are) And I don't think it would be a good idea to have every deities dogma listed in your journal. However the option to re-pick your deity while in the OOC area should be allowed. (Never used it before so I don't know if it is)

If you need a deity change in game, I've found it very easy to find a Dm to help you change it. And they can do that already without sending you off to some OOC place.

Validity checks are already done. And as far as I know you cannot re-pick domain spells without re-makeing.

Perhaps we could simply have the dieties & Doctrines listed in the OOC section, and a script/npc thing to change them there, that way newbies can get an idea of the deities and correct aspects, and DMs can just teleport people needing changes to the OOC area and let them handle it.

I dont know if that means more or less work for the DMs in the long run though.

Jadelink

I think just getting rid of the code that says XXXXX is a valid realms deity and stopping there and rather saying:

"XXXX is a valid deity, are you sure you want to change to a different one? yes/ no"

Then proceed to the normal selection deity gui.

Ebok And I don't think it would be a good idea to have every deities dogma listed in your journal.

Based on Arkov's objections, I say just go read the forums before you create a character. Simple as that.

It's already been typed/copyed/pasted there once.

Hmm. I wasn't suggesting more than one dialogue box per god, ( I think the bit I copy-pasted in the original post would be more than enough) but I admit I hadn't quite taken into account the hordes of racial-specific and minor gods. If scripting would be overly complex then leave it, yes.

However I still think the 'Are you sure' button is a good idea, and I wouldn't imagine it would be that complicated...?

I know that if I'd screwed up on religion I'd usually remake the character rather than bugging the DMs with it, as I know they tend to be busy.

Does it allow you to choose clearly unsuitable gods? Such as an LG paladin taking Talona, or a CE half-orc taking Corellon Larethian? Though again, I suppose it would probably take a lot more scripting to change.

spawnofweevil However I still think the 'Are you sure' button is a good idea, and I wouldn't imagine it would be that complicated...?

spawnofweevil Does it allow you to choose clearly unsuitable gods? Such as an LG paladin taking Talona, or a CE half-orc taking Corellon Larethian? Though again, I suppose it would probably take a lot more scripting to change.

DEITY

Apologies, Metro... I've become too reliant on word auto-correcting things. Arkov, how easy would this be to implement?

Here's an idea. right down the deity's dogma on a sheet of paper or print them all out. The dm's work hard enough as it is.

Though i wouldn't mind a "Are you sure button" either.

djspectre Based on Arkov's objections, I say just go read the forums before you create a character. Simple as that.

It's already been typed/copyed/pasted there once.

Ayup.

Yeah, having realised the hassle that would be (as I said, I didn't take all the individual races' gods into account) I fully agree.

The thing I'm asking about now is the 'confirm' button.

You can easily find all the deities on the forums here. I realize that not everyone reads them though. Perhaps a bookshelf with books specific to each one, or something similar? It would cut down the copy/pasting a bit.

spawnofweevil Yeah, having realised the hassle that would be (as I said, I didn't take all the individual races' gods into account) I fully agree.

The thing I'm asking about now is the 'confirm' button.

Metro_Pack DEITY

I'm glad I'm not the only one bothered by mispelling "deity."

Now if we can just get rid of people using "loose" when they mean "lose" and all those sneak attacking rouges.