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Friendly reminder.

If you make a character, you really should pick a patron deity! You can even write a few down there if you like, or something outrageous like "Himself" and so on. But blank deity fields make me sad.

It's definitely not to your advantage either, we reserve the right to some day make it so deity-less characters can't get raised/respawn but are instead turned into an immobile ghost in the wall of the faithless in the fugue!

I often make deityless characters just in case anyone bothers to try to preach to me or convert me. You still think it's better to just put something in there?

Umm... Harlstar not like Howland be sad but Harlstar need know if character worship character's self then how character come back to life?

*clears throught* Also, sir, if one's character has had not envolvment with the gods and goddesses then how could one's character learn to worship any possible deity?

I agree. Your character probably pays homage to someone.

And as a friendly reminder, when in doubt, stick with Bane. It's easy to remember (only four letters!) and is also one of the few divine figures that has some sort of crossover in real life (Tyr from Norse mythology and the Shar music vaults in Chicago being notable exceptions). Plus Banites are a grand time to play if played if you can avoiding using the word 'pheare' and ending your sentences with ones.

But still... I find myself unable to unstand.

And almost all my chars are faithless.

(Nelum, Sandy, Soigo, Raven...)

meow-mix I often make deityless characters just in case anyone bothers to try to preach to me or convert me. You still think it's better to just put something in there?
You can still be converted if you have a current deity. No conflict there.

Harlstar *clears throught* Also, sir, if one's character has had not envolvment with the gods and goddesses then how could one's character learn to worship any possible deity?
It would be very rare for a character to grow up without any involvement at all with the religions of Faerun. The deities were very literally walking around in the world fourteen years ago, during the Time of Troubles (1358 DR). It's hard to imagine that anybody would seriously deny that they exist, and they clearly can and do grant powers to their adherents. Almost every culture in the Realms, no matter how remote or exotic, reveres some aspect of some deity in some fashion. An ex-slave who has spent years away from the faiths of the surface world would still likely know enough about the gods to be able to pray to Ilmater because he is thankful for being delivered from suffering, or to Lathander because he wants to see the sun again, or to Bane because he wants to marshal an army and brutally crush his former masters.

For those of you without access to source material, who are wondering what Howland is on about:

Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, pg 259 The City of Judgment The shared realm of Kelemvor, Lord of the Dead, and Jergal, Scribe of the Doomed, comprises a portion of the Fugue Plane. This realm, called the Crystal Spire, stands in the center of the region known as the City of Judgment. The city itself is a gray, bland, tightly packed metropolis populated by the judged dead.

While most souls wander the Fugue Plane until their deity calls them, the Faithless and the False are compelled to enter the city and be judged by Kelemvor. The Faithless firmly denied any faith or only gave lip service to the gods for most of their lives without truly believing. The False intentionally betrayed a faith they believed in and to which they had made a personal commitment.

All of the Faithless receive the same punishment: They form a living wall around the City of Judgment, held together by a supernatural greenish mold. This mold prevents them from escaping the wall and eventually breaks down their substance until the soul and its consciousness are dissolved.

The False are punished according to their crimes in life and serve their sentence in the City of Judgment for eternity ...

... Furthermore, once Kelemvor has made his judgment, the soul cannot be raised or resurrected without the intervention of a deity (represented by at least the use of a miracle or wish spell) who will almost certainly have to negotiate with Kelemvor.

So -- pick a patron deity, or have supernatural greenish mold dissolve your character's consciousness for an eternity after they die!

... Yes, it does actually say that!

I left my main without a patron because I wanted him to be more the polythiest, but more focused on his goals than a particular gods.

That said, If he were to take on a patron for some reason, how hard would it be to have that field altered?

It's really easy. Just get a DM in-game to wand you to have the deity of your choice.

If you need a place to start, here are some popular deities people have choosen:


| Bud                                           |
| Cutecumber Man                                |
| Hallucinogenic Mushrooms!                     |
| He beleives in fate, rather than any one god. |
| ME MY SELF AND I                              |
| Myself                                        |
| Sh                                            |
| The Almighty Gold Piece                       |
| zeus                                          |

You don't want to be one of the 1010 people that have a blank field. Like Strife >_>

Draon17 I left my main without a patron because I wanted him to be more the polythiest, but more focused on his goals than a particular gods.
Still need a patron deity.

I've only remembered it once, myself, because the deity button is so well hidden. >.>

Say, would it be possible (and desirable) to make it so a PC couldn't enter through the portals in the OOC area without something in the deity field (be it a god, a banana, or just [Blank])?

It would be possible.

If you forget to set a deity during character creation (an easy mistake to make) there is a device in the Welcome area that can be used to set it.

I've forgot to choose a Deity, and walked right past that thing at least 3 times with Clerics, and when i've made another class i've forgotten completley about Deities. I think forcing it upon us would be a better reminder.

I just asked a DM to change my deity to 'The Adama', the all-pervasive spirit-worship/philosophy of the Durpari people.

Unfortunately it seems that only FR deities from a set list can be assigned after character creation.

So I'm stuck.

ChuckT / Chandrababu Banerjee ------------------------------------------------------------- "Does the moth seek darkness once it has seen light?"

You could also make a portal somewhere in the city that if your deity field is clear ports you to a place where you can set it , if your deity field gets cleared.

The other way to do it is to make the visit to the deity configuration block mandatory, ie.. you have to go through that dialog to get the key that will get you actually out of the room and into the underdark.

Isn't it normal for the players that are playing slaves to not have a deity? Assuming of course they were born in slavery. Of Course then I guess you can just put, "Ok, Yessssir master" And I guess It would work just fine. :roll:

Still, I see a blank field as more of an unchosen deity, rather then the total lack of one. Then again, I've never played a character with no deity. >.> Guess I've destroyed my posts point by now. I'll shudap.

I so want a cut scene showing my death and my body sucked into the wailing wall!

The rule book also states that when you die you can choose a patron diety there and then. As such that is something that you can do before you get sucked into the wall.

If you're character is polytheistic, which most will be--you could always put Faerunian Pantheon or Seldarine or what have you.

While its true that master races would try to eliminate religion; its mostly the PRIESTS that worry them I'd expect. Stories about major gods would still manage to survive, maybe names get changed so its less clear the story is about so and so god.

I could easily see how slaves, cut off from proper priests may still tell stories about the Sun, or Moon, or Stars (when refering to Lathander, Selune, or Mystra). They may refer to Malar as the Beast, or Bane as the Master; but the religion isn't about to disappear. No matter how talented the drow are at wiping out priests before they can be a threat; the Gods are going to be able to continue garnering worship because they need it to live.

Theres also kara-tur which has the celestial beauracracy: The (jade) Celestial Emperor [male, master of the pantheon] The Nine Immortals: Al Ch'ing [female, love and marriage]; Chann Cheng [male, war, martial arts, combat and bravery]; Chih Shih [male, history, lore and traditions], Ch'en Hsiang [male,poetry, music and literature]; Fa Kuan [male, justice]; Hsing Yong [male, fortune and prosperity]; Kwan Ying [female,compassion, mercy and joy]; Nung Chiang [male, agriculture and fertility]; Shu Chia [male, artificers and the Arts] It's also the home of the Eight million gods (animal, elemental spirits, devils, ghosts, demons, ancestors etc).

Theres also Maztica, with the so called named TRUE gods. (aztec themed) Info on the deities there is here: http://www.planewalker.com/encyclopedia/encyclopedia.php?intEntryID=1444

Unther who had but one god, Gilgeam. But was killed by Tiamat during the time of troubles.

Zakhara : (land of fate) http://www.ii.uib.no/%7Ebjornts/.rpg/AQrelig.html

Howland It's definitely not to your advantage either, we reserve the right to some day make it so deity-less characters can't get raised/respawn but are instead turned into an immobile ghost in the wall of the faithless in the fugue!

Great idea! Once you implemented that, I can finally play my perma-death rule out without ever being tempted to respawn. Thanks! Implement it ASAP, please!

Let's not open those Kara Tur anime-ripoff character floodgates just yet.

chaosprism You could also make a portal somewhere in the city that if your deity field is clear ports you to a place where you can set it , if your deity field gets cleared.
If nothing else is done to prevent people joining with blank deity fields I think this would be a waste of space, really. Better to just catch a DM to change it, and it won't require an area specially designed for accessing a deity configuration panel.

chaosprism The other way to do it is to make the visit to the deity configuration block mandatory, ie.. you have to go through that dialog to get the key that will get you actually out of the room and into the underdark.
Easier to just make the various portals check for a blank deity field instead of having to first set a variable and then check for it.

This may be a dumb question, but does having a deity on this server actually provide some sort of benefit to the character? I know clerics benefit from whatever deity they chose due to their spells and all, but what of a fighter? Or perhaps some deities just favor certain classes. Just curious.

Dreh

That is not a dumb question, and the benefits are many!

Following a specific deity, much like in real life, provides a character with automatic allies (or at least a certain measure of trust), such as other followers of that faith or followers of allied faiths. Also, many DM plots revolve around specific faiths, cults, churches, or groups.

There are more good benefits, but those are the big ones, I'd say.

Can I have like, several deities in there somehow or a representation like, I don't know, "Dweomerheart" (as an example for my PC who pays homage to all deities of Dweomerheart, even Velsharoon), and, more importantly, could I be helped in a case where I "forget" to fill in my deity field at creation once again?

The things that are actually written into deity fields get pretty crazy at times, we just like to see something in there. "Deities of Dweomerheart" is a fine entry, its gets a point across. Sometimes characters have multiple deities written in, like: "Cyric, Chauntea, Talos and Torm." As long as it gives us an idea of where your character's allegiances lie, it's all fine.

As always, if you need help with a specific character, try to catch a DM in game.

Oroborous If you're character is polytheistic, which most will be--you could always put Faerunian Pantheon or Seldarine or what have you.

Feel free to have spelling errors...I need souls >: )

Further...it's a bit unclear: He beleives in fate, rather than any one god.

That is one of my characters...is a diety field like that discouraged? I don't get the feeling it is, as long as it is reasonable?

Kara-Tur really has nothing to do with this server.

>.>

Sedarine
Oroborous If you're character is polytheistic, which most will be--you could always put Faerunian Pantheon or Seldarine or what have you.

Feel free to have spelling errors...I need souls >: )

Further...it's a bit unclear: He beleives in fate, rather than any one god.

That is one of my characters...is a diety field like that discouraged? I don't get the feeling it is, as long as it is reasonable?

In this case he may be respecting several gods having to do with fate, Savras, Tymora and Beshaba to name a few, possibly without knowing it. The thing is, in the FR setting, very few would not know about the gods and have at least some idea what they stand for.

Just to point out, if something was indeed done to prevent PCs from entering through the portals with a blank deity field, make sure there actually is an option to choose [BLANK] or something on the panel.

outcrowd1 In this case he may be respecting several gods having to do with fate, Savras, Tymora and Beshaba to name a few, possibly without knowing it. The thing is, in the FR setting, very few would not know about the gods and have at least some idea what they stand for.

No, my thinking for him was that a guy who got kicked down the proverbial stairs and wound up doing slave labor for the drow may just have a bad outlook on gods, or at least what formerly was his god. He isn't opposed to them..just bitter XD